Jumping Frog wrote:
For handguns I have had sucess with:
10mm: Dan Wesson 1911 Razorback
This last season I took 2 deer on opening day with my 10mm.
Not trying to beat up on a new guy, but trying to save you some potential heartache.
Unless that is a long slide DW 1911 with a 6" barrel, that is not legal for deer hunting in Ohio.
Ordinary common sense would assume the regulations require a 5" barrel, and everyone "knows" a standard full size 1911 has a 5" barrel.
But the "gotcha" comes in the definitions. The BATF***ers and everyone else in the firearms industry measures barrel length in a semi-automatic from the breech face to the end of the muzzle. By that standard, the Gov't model 1911 has a 5" barrel.
But our bureaucratic overseers in the ODNR chose to redefine barrel length as the distance from the end of the chamber to the muzzle. Since the 10 mm has a 0.990" case length, and the chamber is sized to allow the round to headspace on the case mouth, the barrel length is about 4.01 inches by ODNR standards and thus illegal to hunt deer.
I believe the regulation was written with revolvers in mind, where speaking of a 4" or 6" barrel is understood to mean the actual barrel in front of the cylinder.
Thanks for the welcomes & concerns with our Ohio "Alowable Hunting Equipment".
Our current law reads:
Handgun - 5-in min. length barrel, using straight-walled cartridges .357 caliber or larger
In going to prior ODNR "Open Houses" as I have been an active Pro-Poponent to get our "Handgun Laws" to where they are today. (Prior to the current law we were restricted to .44 mag as the max caliber)
I have asked this same question prior and this morning I called ODNR about this specific pistol in question, a 1911 10mm 5" barreled handgun. Again, I received a positive "yes"!!
To confirm this, I emailed (today) my local county ODNR Officer, here is his reply:
There are three criteria for a handgun in order for it to be a legal hunting implement for white-tailed deer in Ohio. They are as follows:
(1) Chambered for .357 caliber magnum or larger.
(2) Using a straight walled cartridge.
(3) Single barrel not less than five inches in length, as measured
from the front of the cylinder or chamber to the end of the
I believe this answers your question. Good luck."
So, after receiving the above email, I confirmed via/phone with JD Jones of SSK Industries (Handgun Hunters International) home of the hand cannons, JD said too many people try to read into things. On a pistol, a "chamber" starts where the cartridge goes in the barrel, to keep it simple just put a pencil down the barrel to measure.
I'm not going to read any more into this as (for me) I have done all I can to cover myself on this issue.
Best regards - Rich