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Post subject: Blacklick Woods Metro Park ....CCW friendly ?
Post Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:18 pm
We can carry concealed at Blacklick Woods Metro Park, correct ? (not the golf course)

Im assuming that since its a metro park that the same rules apply as to Battelle Darby, but just want to have someone confirm it since I cant find it in writing and cant find anyone to speak to in person

Ohio Constitution.
§ 1.04 Bearing arms; standing armies; military powers (1851)
The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security...
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Post subject: Re: Blacklick Woods Metro Park ....CCW friendly ?
Post Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:23 pm
Nevermind...I found it :)


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RESOLUTION NO. 4440
RESOLUTION TO APPROVE, ADOPT, AND ENACT REVISED RULES AND
REGULATIONS OF THE FRANKLIN COUNTY METROPOLITAN PARK DISTRICT;
REPEALING RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT THEREWITH; AND AUTHORIZING THE
REQUIRED PUBLICATION
BE IT RESOLVED, Columbus and Franklin County Metropolitan Park District (“Metro
Parks”), by and through the Board of Park Commissioners, resolves that in accordance with
authority granted in Section 1545.09 of the Ohio Revised Code, the use of the Parks,
reservations, parkways, boulevards, grounds, recreation areas, nature preserves, buildings,
shelters, and other lands, structures, and areas owned or controlled by Metro Parks shall be
under and subject to the rules and regulations as set forth and adopted herein and the
Executive Director and such authorized and duly appointed employees of Metro Parks shall
be charged with the obligation and duty to enforce such Rules and Regulations as herein
adopted. Further, any person violating any of such rules and regulations shall be deemed
guilty of a misdemeanor, and upon conviction shall be assessed penalties for misdemeanors
in accordance with the Ohio Revised Code 1545.99, provided however nothing contained
herein shall prevent violators from being charged or penalized under other provisions of the
Ohio Revised Code, municipal ordinance or other applicable laws, rules or regulations.
Metro Parks Rules and Regulations
The following terms as used in the Rules and Regulations herein shall mean:
“Executive Director” means the chief executive officer of Metro Parks as appointed by the
Park Board.
“Metro Parks” means the Columbus and Franklin County Metropolitan Park District, which
is established and authorized in accordance with Ohio Revised Code (ORC) Chapter 1545.
“Park” means any area administered and managed by Metro Parks including land held in fee
simple, leased, or otherwise controlled by Metro Parks.
“Park Board” means the Board of Park Commissioners of the Columbus and Franklin County
Metropolitan Park District, or its designated representative.
“Park Manager” means an employee of the Metro Parks appointed in the classification of
Park Manager, Assistant Park Manager, Area Manager, Public Gardens Manager or Assistant
Public Gardens Manager.
“Park Officer” means a commissioned law enforcement officer of Metro Parks as defined in
ORC Sections 2901.01(k)(s) and 1545.13.
“Person” or “Persons” means persons or corporations except employees or agents of the
Metro Parks acting in their official capacity.
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“Posted” means and requires that the Park shall display appropriate regulations and
operational policies at a location and in such a manner that they are reasonably accessible to
Park visitors during regular hours of operations.
“Ranger” means any employee classified as a Ranger, Part-time Ranger, Park Officer or any
other person duly designated by the Park Board.
“Traffic control device” means the same as defined in ORC Section 4511.011(QQ).
1.0 Protection of Natural and Archeological Features
1.1 Defacement, Destruction, or Removal of Natural and Archeological Features
Persons shall utilize any Park in such a way as to not injure, deface, destroy, or remove any
tree, flower, shrub, or other vegetation, or fruit or seed thereof, nor shall any rock or mineral
or any historical or archeological artifact or feature be removed, destroyed or disturbed
except as authorized by a special permit issued by the Executive Director or in keeping with
operational policies which allow such activity in general picnic and other regularly mowed
areas.
1.2 Use of Nature Trails and Multi-Use Trails
Persons shall remain on the official, designated, or improved trails while visiting natural
areas of the Park, unless involved in a Metro Park program involving off-trail activity or in
accordance with a special or general permit issued by the Executive Director. The Executive
Director may issue a general permit to designate areas in a Park where off-trail activities are
permitted. Areas in the natural areas may also be designated by the Park Manager for special
uses including geocaching and similar recreation activities consistent with established
policies and procedures.
2.0 Littering and Facility Cleanliness
2.1 Littering, Dumping, Garbage, Sewage, and Noxious Material
Persons shall not bring into, leave behind, or dump any material of any kind in any Park
except the refuse, ashes, garbage, and other material of a picnic, camp, or other permitted
activity unless specific written permission from the Executive Director has been granted.
Such material shall be deposited in receptacles provided for such purposes.
2.2 Facility Cleanliness
Persons reserving any Metro Parks facility, structure, or area, shall ensure that the facility is
left in a sanitary and clean condition and that Person shall accept liability for any breakage,
destruction, or removal of Park property by any member of their group as a condition of
receiving the applicable permit.
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3.0 Firearms or Other Dangerous Weapons
No Person except duly authorized Metro Parks employees, law enforcement officers, or
Persons engaged in hunting in accordance with Rules 10.1, 10.2 and 10.3 shall carry or
discharge or otherwise use a firearm of any description, explosive substance, firework, air or
gas gun, bow, crossbow, or other missile throwing device, pistol, switchblade or hunting
knife, dagger, metal knuckles, slingshot, boomerang or other dangerous weapon within the
Park, except that firearms or weapons may be permitted for the purpose of educational or
cultural programs through the issuance of a special permit by the Executive Director.

Persons possessing a valid license issued under ORC 2923.125 or ORC 2923.1213 may carry a
concealed firearm within the Park except inside any government building located on the
Park, and subject to any other restrictions imposed by law.

Under no circumstances shall aPerson so licensed carry such a weapon other than in a concealed manner.


When approached by a ranger or other law enforcement officer for a law enforcement purpose, said Person shall
immediately notify the ranger or other law enforcement officer that he possesses a valid
concealed carry permit and is also carrying a concealed firearm. Said Person shall cooperate
and follow instructions provided by the ranger and other law enforcement officers.

Ohio Constitution.
§ 1.04 Bearing arms; standing armies; military powers (1851)
The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security...
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Post subject: Re: Blacklick Woods Metro Park ....CCW friendly ?
Post Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:27 pm
Those rules are posted, but those rules aren't legal. That have been superceded by ORC 9.68 which makes the state the only entity that can create these kinds of gun laws; cities, counties, and other political entities do not have the authority.

Anyone not otherwise disqualifed from possessing firearms has the right to open carry (CHL or not) in Metro Parks.

Ohioans for Concealed Carry is already addressing this issue with Metro Parks.

Don't get an entirely inflated sense of confidence just from a stranger providing you this information over the internet. This whole "Home Rule" thing is being litigated and if you carry you may very well end up as a test case.

Personally, I have no problems with open carrying there or elsewhere. But I do so with my eyes open.

This froggie ain't boiling! Shall not be infringed!

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Post subject: Re: Blacklick Woods Metro Park ....CCW friendly ?
Post Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:34 pm
Jumping Frog wrote:
Those rules are posted, but those rules aren't legal. That have been superceded by ORC 9.68 which makes the state the only entity that can create these kinds of gun laws; cities, counties, and other political entities do not have the authority.

Anyone not otherwise disqualifed from possessing firearms has the right to open carry (CHL or not) in Metro Parks.

Ohioans for Concealed Carry is already addressing this issue with Metro Parks.

Don't get an entirely inflated sense of confidence just from a stranger providing you this information over the internet. This whole "Home Rule" thing is being litigated and if you carry you may very well end up as a test case.

Personally, I have no problems with open carrying there or elsewhere. But I do so with my eyes open.
Looks like the CC issue is pretty clear. I was wondering about the parks OC rules tho. They seem to conflict with the state laws.
Currently Im not willing to be a test case. I'll wait for this all to be handled thru proper legal channels before I even attempt OC in a metro park :)

We went to Blacklick MP and rode the bike as planned, carried concealed, of course. Its a nice bike trail, tho a bit short for the effort put in taking the bike out there.

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The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security...
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Post subject: Re: Blacklick Woods Metro Park ....CCW friendly ?
Post Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 6:26 am
Yesterday my lady friend and I hiked the longer isolated trails at Clear Creek Metro Park. It really is isolated back in there, so I took my Glock 19 carrying it concealed. We never encountered any trouble, but one never knows.

These trails are accessible to the public via paved roadways, so my theroy is any criminal who wants to prey on victims for what ever reason can walk the same isolated trail as we can.

Always be prepared is my moto!
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Post subject: Re: Blacklick Woods Metro Park ....CCW friendly ?
Post Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:29 pm
Is there any update to this...has anyone heard? Obviously 9.68 trumps, but regarding the "nobody's tested OC yet"...just curious. I just visited the Franklin Cty Metro Parks site and downloaded the rules, which still read that OC is not allowed and only CC is.
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Post subject: Re: Blacklick Woods Metro Park ....CCW friendly ?
Post Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2016 10:08 am
http://www.metroparks.net/about-us/rules-regulations/
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3.1 Firearms
Only persons authorized by the Ohio Revised Code may carry firearms, as defined by Ohio Revised Code Section 2923.11, within the Park. No person except duly authorized Metro Parks employees, law enforcement officers, or persons engaged in hunting in accordance with Rules 10.1, 10.2 and 10.3, shall discharge or otherwise use a firearm of any description within the Park without a permit. Discharge or other use of firearms may be permitted for the purpose of educational or cultural programs through the issuance of a special permit by the Executive Director. Persons possessing a valid license issued in accordance with the Ohio Revised Code may carry a concealed firearm within the Park except inside any government building located on the Park, and subject to any other restrictions imposed by law. When approached by a Ranger or other law enforcement officer for a law enforcement purpose, said person shall immediately notify the Ranger or other law enforcement officer that said person possesses a valid concealed carry permit and is also carrying a concealed firearm. Said person shall cooperate and follow instructions provided by the Ranger and other law enforcement officers.

3.2 Other Dangerous Weapons
No person except duly authorized Metro Parks employees, law enforcement officers, or persons engaged in hunting in accordance with Rules 10.1, 10.2 and 10.3 shall carry, possess, discharge or otherwise use any dangerous weapon, explosive substance, firework, air or gas gun, bow, crossbow, other missile throwing device, switchblade or hunting knife, dagger, metal knuckles, slingshot, boomerang, or other dangerous weapon within the Park, except that dangerous weapons may be permitted for the purpose of educational or cultural programs through the issuance of a special permit by the Executive Director.
So, the first sentence says it all.


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9.68 Right to bear arms - challenge to law.

9.68 Right to bear arms - challenge to law.

(A) The individual right to keep and bear arms, being a fundamental individual right that predates the United States Constitution and Ohio Constitution, and being a constitutionally protected right in every part of Ohio, the general assembly finds the need to provide uniform laws throughout the state regulating the ownership, possession, purchase, other acquisition, transport, storage, carrying, sale, or other transfer of firearms, their components, and their ammunition. Except as specifically provided by the United States Constitution, Ohio Constitution, state law, or federal law, a person, without further license, permission, restriction, delay, or process, may own, possess, purchase, sell, transfer, transport, store, or keep any firearm, part of a firearm, its components, and its ammunition.

(B) In addition to any other relief provided, the court shall award costs and reasonable attorney fees to any person, group, or entity that prevails in a challenge to an ordinance, rule, or regulation as being in conflict with this section.

(C) As used in this section:

(1) The possession, transporting, or carrying of firearms, their components, or their ammunition include, but are not limited to, the possession, transporting, or carrying, openly or concealed on a person's person or concealed ready at hand, of firearms, their components, or their ammunition.

(2) "Firearm" has the same meaning as in section 2923.11 of the Revised Code.

(D) This section does not apply to either of the following:

(1) A zoning ordinance that regulates or prohibits the commercial sale of firearms, firearm components, or ammunition for firearms in areas zoned for residential or agricultural uses;

(2) A zoning ordinance that specifies the hours of operation or the geographic areas where the commercial sale of firearms, firearm components, or ammunition for firearms may occur, provided that the zoning ordinance is consistent with zoning ordinances for other retail establishments in the same geographic area and does not result in a de facto prohibition of the commercial sale of firearms, firearm components, or ammunition for firearms in areas zoned for commercial, retail, or industrial uses.

Effective Date: 03-14-2007
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