Thanks for the info. I am still learning- when I post something and someone corrects me I learn. That's why I'm on the forum. If you have the OPOTC Model lesson plan, please email it to me. I printed it out about 2 years ago (haven't even looked at it since) and lost it. Just kind of curious, maybe it's not how I remember it. I have the old NRA Basic Pistol Training Guide (dated 9-05) and it says 8 hours. It also says 8 hours on the NRA site. It used to be 10, like John said. I am aware of what the law requires me to cover, and I do cover all of it. I haven't been around since the begining- I may very well be wrong on some things. This is an interesting post to me, even though it's starting to make my head hurt.
What I do personally (to comply with ohio laws and NRA policy) is as follows:
Introduce myself, let the students introduce themselves and talk about thier experience/training so we all know eachother and I get a heads-up on who may need special attention. Then I explain that the NRA does not have a CCW class, we are simply allowed to teach this class. I tell everyone this will be very basic safety stuff, we will not be rolling around in mud or shooting from behind cover, etc. I tell them after we go through the NRA material and take the test we will be shooting for 2 hours minimum. This Introduction is much longer than what I typed here, but that is a summary. I then explain that after we get back from the range, we are done with the NRA Basic Pistol Program. That is usually around the 10 hour mark (I get long-winded telling stories and answering questions). We all come back and open up the Ohio CHL book and discuss everything in there and cover everything in the book. If there is extra time, I have a million other things we can talk about that may be helpful, depending on the group. Usually I have to rush through certian sections just to keep everything on schedule. At the end of the class, when I am filling out certificates and the students are doing evaluations, I tell them to feel free to contact me if they forgot to ask something, ever want to come shooting or ANYTHING- I'm there for them. If I don't know the answer I will not guess (unlike how I do one here), but I will try to find someone who does know. I also explain that they just went through everything the Ohio Law requires, but should by no means stop training.
I teach when I can (usually one to two classes a month with 5-10 students each class) and charge as little as possible to cover my own expenses and time. I have a full time job, so teaching is more of a hobby even though I take it very seriously. I have never had a bad evaluation. In fact, most people grade me 5 out of 5 on everything and write things like "great class had lots of fun" under additional comments. I am not bragging about that, it just makes me feel good. Several of my students have become friends of mine.
Below is a description from the NRA website of the Basic Pistol Program, copied and pasted today(yeah yeah I know it used to be 10)
Name : NRA Basic Pistol Shooting Course
Short Description : Teaches the basic knowledge, skills, and attitude for owning and operating a pistol safely.
More Details: This course is at least 8-hours long and includes classroom and range time learning to shoot revolvers and semi-automatic pistols. Students learn NRA’s rules for safe gun handling; pistol parts and operation; ammunition; shooting fundamentals; range rules; shooting from the bench rest position, and two handed standing positions; cleaning the pistol; and continued opportunities for skill development. Students will receive the NRA Guide to the Basics of Pistol Shooting handbook, NRA Gun Safety Rules brochure, Winchester/NRA Marksmanship Qualification booklet, take a Basics of Pistol Shooting Student Examination, and course completion certificate. (Lesson Plan 2nd edition, 2009)[email protected]
Just to let you know where I am coming from, the book I used to take my CCW Class was listed at first edition 1991, Jan. 1991 but at the bottom of that same page it says 13270 04/03 so I am guessing it is the April 2003 reprint? I actually took the course for CCW purposes on 03/21/04.
The book I got with my Instructor Pack when I took the Pistol Instructor course is basically the same book but it has 04/04 I guess being the April 2004 reprint? I actually took the Pistol Instructor course, along with the Home Firearms Safety Instructor's Course and the Personal Protection in the Home Instructor's course in September and October of 2005.
As you said, it has been reduced since then, but at that time it was 8 hours classroom and two hours range for 10 hours total. This was the standard at the time the CCW Law was written and adopted and that is the standard the law still requires to be held to.
The NRA has actually changed and shortened a course that is in the ORC in it's OLD version. But we know the NRA refuses to let the Basic Pistol Course be used for CCW, so they have been bucking the law all along.
I have been wanting to take Personal Protection Outside the Home, but the NRA seems scared of their own class and because of that have the Instructor rating for that same course priced clear out of any reasonable person investing that much time and money taking it.
I work with three other NRA Certified Instructors and four OPOTA certified instructors. We teach an alternate course approved by our local sheriff and accepted by at least 19 other counties we know of at this point. We also teach, when there is enough free money in the economy to get students for them, advanced classes, some of which are 8 hours long, worked completely from the holster and involve firing 400 - 500 rounds of ammo in that 8 hour period.
When your head really hurts, blood runs out of your ears and one eye blows out from over-pressure, then you just about have it figured out, which means Columbus will change it again! Some of us have lived, carried and taught through three major changes so far, with, probably, more to come!
We have ONLY run one day classes for the last 4 years, no one can seem to commit or hold to the commitment to make a multiple day, multiple session class. They want to "git er done" as Larry the Cable Guy says. Classes run 7:00 AM - 7:00 PM. Some of the guys (the owner of the group and the co-owners) start the day off. I usually drift in between 11:00 AM and Noon and finish the course out at 7:00 PM. Others leave, some of them working uniformed security at venues that night.
We have found, through feedback from students, that getting new people in at various times during the course changes the course little by little as someone new comes on and one of the earlier ones fade out. It gives them more slightly divergent views and more people to talk to on breaks. I am the Range Officer and my Line Instructors drift in over the afternoon after I get there. We put a ratio of 1 instructor for every two students on the line. We won't work with a higher ratio that that. At any time, an instructor can, if necessary, take physical control of both of the students firearms they are responsible for. That ratio does not count me, as the range officer, either!
I will see what I can do about sending the OPOTC stuff to you. They are .pdf files.