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Post subject: USG choke hold = killed my email
Post Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:28 pm
this is a copy / past letter from my email provider


My Fellow Users,

I have been forced to make a difficult decision: to become complicit in crimes against the American people or walk away from nearly ten years of hard work by shutting down Lavabit. After significant soul searching, I have decided to suspend operations. I wish that I could legally share with you the events that led to my decision. I cannot. I feel you deserve to know what’s going on--the first amendment is supposed to guarantee me the freedom to speak out in situations like this. Unfortunately, Congress has passed laws that say otherwise. As things currently stand, I cannot share my experiences over the last six weeks, even though I have twice made the appropriate requests.

What’s going to happen now? We’ve already started preparing the paperwork needed to continue to fight for the Constitution in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. A favorable decision would allow me resurrect Lavabit as an American company.

This experience has taught me one very important lesson: without congressional action or a strong judicial precedent, I would _strongly_ recommend against anyone trusting their private data to a company with physical ties to the United States.

Sincerely,
Ladar Levison
Owner and Operator, Lavabit LLC

Defending the constitution is expensive! Help us by donating to the Lavabit Legal Defense Fund here.



so now i am trying with all i can to find an off shore email account
and i can tell you this is a search i have been doing for 4 years without success

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Post subject: Re: USG choke hold = killed my email
Post Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:46 pm
calemus wrote:
so now i am trying with all i can to find an off shore email account
and i can tell you this is a search i have been doing for 4 years without success

Going to run your own cable to reach that server when you find it?

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Post subject: Re: USG choke hold = killed my email
Post Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:49 pm
http://www.mymail.com/

Read the fine print.

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Post subject: Re: USG choke hold = killed my email
Post Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:40 pm
color of law wrote:
http://www.mymail.com/

Read the fine print.

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Robert T. Derby understands more than you do.

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Post subject: Re: USG choke hold = killed my email
Post Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:38 pm
james beatty,,,i had a teacher in Jr. High named Mr. Beatty

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Post subject: Re: USG choke hold = killed my email
Post Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:44 pm
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/0 ... t-snowden/

Sums it up.
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A pro-privacy email service long used by NSA leaker Edward Snowden abruptly shut down today, blaming a secret U.S. court battle it has been fighting for six weeks — one that it seems to be losing so far.

“I have been forced to make a difficult decision: to become complicit in crimes against the American people or walk away from nearly 10 years of hard work by shutting down Lavabit,” owner Ladar Levison wrote in a statement. “After significant soul searching, I have decided to suspend operations.”

Based in Texas, Lavabit attracted attention last month when NSA leaker Edward Snowden used an email account with the service to invite human rights workers and lawyers to a press conference in the Moscow airport where he was then confined. A PGP crypto key apparently registered by Snowden with a Lavabit address suggests he’s favored the service since January 2010 — well before he became the most important whistleblower in a generation.

Levison posted this message today announcing the shutdown.

My Fellow Users,

I have been forced to make a difficult decision: to become complicit in crimes against the American people or walk away from nearly ten years of hard work by shutting down Lavabit. After significant soul searching, I have decided to suspend operations. I wish that I could legally share with you the events that led to my decision. I cannot. I feel you deserve to know what’s going on–the first amendment is supposed to guarantee me the freedom to speak out in situations like this. Unfortunately, Congress has passed laws that say otherwise. As things currently stand, I cannot share my experiences over the last six weeks, even though I have twice made the appropriate requests.

What’s going to happen now? We’ve already started preparing the paperwork needed to continue to fight for the Constitution in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. A favorable decision would allow me resurrect Lavabit as an American company.

This experience has taught me one very important lesson: without congressional action or a strong judicial precedent, I would _strongly_ recommend against anyone trusting their private data to a company with physical ties to the United States.

Sincerely, Ladar Levison Owner and Operator, Lavabit LLC

Defending the constitution is expensive! Help us by donating to the Lavabit Legal Defense Fund here.

Reading between the lines, it’s reasonable to assume Levison has been fighting either a National Security Letter seeking customer information — which comes by default with a gag order — or a full-blown search or eavesdropping warrant.

Court records show that, in June, Lavabit complied with a routine search warrant targeting a child pornography suspect in a federal case in Maryland. That suggests that Levison isn’t a privacy absolutist. Whatever compelled him to shut down now must have been exceptional.

A voicemail to Lavabit went unreturned today.

Update 19:45: Lavabit has 350,000 users who aren’t Edward Snowden, and some are decidedly unhappy with Levison’s decision, judging by a flood of angry comments posted to Lavabit’s Facebook page this afternoon.

“Too bad that I payed some years in advance to keep up the good work that now turns out to be terminated without any warning,” wrote one user. “I relied on this service which is basic for my private as professional online communication and have no idea how to migrate mails and recover mails being sent that never reached me in the past 18 hours.”

“I have my Steam account and EVERYTHING on Lavabit,” wrote another. “Please have the servers running so that we can migrate our services.”

“How am I supposed to migrate?” a third user added. “Some services require a confirmation sent to the old email address to be able to switch. I can’t believe this. I just switched to Lavabit only a couple of weeks ago to get away from Hotmail snooping my shit.”

A minority of commenters were more supportive. “Holy shit, you guys are crying over your Steam accounts,” wrote one. “Just change your email to something else. Lavabit either had to roll over for the government, compromising our privacy, or shut down service. Be happy Ladar shut it down instead of rolling over.”
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Post Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 3:21 pm
after the news that the NSA was tapping into the fiber line between servers at google and yahoo over seas..

Google now does encryption on all their traffic, even internally where it should be secure.
Use something strong like AES 256.. pretty much unbreakable it would take them decades even with a super computer dedicated to it.
Totally impractical to try and casually break on a large scale currently.

Obviously the government needs to be *Female Dog* slapped back in line but until then encryption is the key.. it's inconvenient but it's the best way to security.

Even though the wire tapping on google happens outside the US it doesn't mean your data wasn't on the server as the data floats around in between their data centers.

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Post Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:29 am
If the NSA can tap the fiber, then they most likely have the keys/certs used by the likes of Google and Yahoo. So talk of higher level encryption is just a try to appease the masses. If they want your data they can get it..imho.
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