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Post subject: Washington DC's concealed carry provision
Post Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:13 am
Washington DC is finally implementing a procedure for acquiring a concealed carry license:

http://www.nranews.com/home/document/ba ... ry-permits

Of particular interest is the following:

" . . . The regulations say the investigative process to qualify for permits could take 90 days or longer for gun owners to demonstrate that they are targets of specific threats"

In other words, if you are specifically threatened, you need to dodge the threat for maybe 90 days or more before being okayed to proceed further in getting a license. And how does one "demonstrate" this? By repeatedly dodging bullets?

Is it too much of a stretch to imagine the authorities saying at the end of 90 days, "Well, you made it for three months and didn't get killed, so this must not be much of a threat . . ."?

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Post subject: Re: Washington DC's concealed carry provision
Post Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 9:44 am
I've seen several news stories where anti gun groups or individuals have said they wanted to kill gun owners or members of the NRA. I'd collect and submit those and see what they say,
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Post subject: Re: Washington DC's concealed carry provision
Post Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 2:42 pm
DC's situation seems to be similar to things we've run into around here - like Cleveland - where using a license, although perfectly legal, is a sufficient hassle that people won't bother. Doesn't help that it's a bear to get it, too.

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Post subject: Re: Washington DC's concealed carry provision
Post Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 3:46 pm
DC has chosen to take a page from Maryland's CCW play book. Maryland calls it "good and substantial reason". More than one documented threat, carrying substantial cash and political connections are examples of "G&S" as we call it.

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Post Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:47 pm
They'll have a procedure but in letter only.. it'll be so difficult to get one that only the well connected or rich will be granted one.

No surprise here.. we see it in other "may issue" states.

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Post Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:17 am
Very similar to Rhode Island as well. While they are hybrid "Shall Issue"/"May Issue", they seem to be inclined to take the position "Won't Issue". As the law reads, both local and state authorities issue CHL's; the State of RI takes the position of "May Issue" while local authorities have the authority to issue as a "Shall Issue". In reality, most cities/local jurisdictions take the position of "May Issue" and simply send the application on to the State Attorney General for review and denial.

The State of RI requires a four page application, fingerprinting on an FBI card (who uses these any more? OH BCI and most law enforcement in OH have been using electronic fingerprinting for the last five years), notarized letters of references from three people (not form letters and containing specific reasons why they feel you should be issued a CHL), two 1x1 photos (tiny, not passport sized), copies of your current CHL's, a copy of your D.L., and one other certified copy of another form of identification. If you are approved for a CHL, you go to the town or State AG Office, pay $250, and pick up your license.

I travel a lot and felt that I had qualified for a CHL, still waiting for a decision from Providence after six weeks.

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Post Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:32 am
I never understood why they would want or need you to supply your own photos.
they already take one for the license.

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Post subject: Re: Washington DC's concealed carry provision
Post Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:34 pm
Joe:

The way things were done in Columbiana County back in 2004, the idea of the applicant-supplied photo was to be sure that the individual who provided the application was the one who eventually picked it up. With "same day" service now possible, and if you're turning in an old CHL during a renewal, the necessity is gone.

Meantime, particularly for new applicants, the LEADS system has pictures of many of us, so that's another "check" they can make. It's probably impossible to compare your application photo and the LEADS image if they don't have any kind of "pointer" into LEADS (SSN, for example), but again your application photo should match anything that LEADS has.

The electronic photograph taken as the license is issued likely does go into LEADS, btw.

I'm sure that many Sheriffs could grab a picture and a print as you drop off your application, but Columbiana County's procedure has you dropping the application off at the Courthouse, where they handle the money and batch things up for transfer to the Sheriff's Station at the County Jail, so they really do need the picture, and no hardware is at the Courthouse to handle that.

Other than space to put the computer and a desktop for the Deputy who does the work, I presume that Columbiana County didn't have room at the Courthouse. Lawrence County PA also uses their Courthouse (PA CHL) with everything at the window where you drop off the application. They grab the picture & print as you drop it off, and then mail you the license if it's a new one. A renewal originally obtained from them can be handled on the spot, but they treat other renewals as a new application.

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