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Post subject: Congratulations it's a SQUIB!
Post Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 3:52 pm
So I was trying to get rid of some old 38 ammo for a friend who's parents had been cleaning out closets. Out of curiosity I'd been chronoing the rounds since I had some reloads to check anyways. I was lucky because there were three dead give aways to the issue.
1. The sound of the shot
2. The lack of recoil
3. The lack of a chrono result

Well, maybe there was a fourth dead giveaway. :roll:

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Post subject: Re: Congratulations it's a SQUIB!
Post Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 7:33 pm
And now we know why not to shoot ammo of unknown origin. Yes, you were lucky.

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Post subject: Re: Congratulations it's a SQUIB!
Post Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 9:29 pm
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And now we know why not to shoot ammo of unknown origin. Yes, you were lucky.


Yes very lucky
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Post subject: Re: Congratulations it's a SQUIB!
Post Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:19 pm
Yep, very lucky. I still remember watching my cousin losing part of his right thumb and index from a 38spc squib.
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Post subject: Re: Congratulations it's a SQUIB!
Post Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:26 pm
Ya I worry about that during rapid fire, seems like the perfect time to get a squib and blow you gun to bits.

Did you push it out for dramatic effect or is that as far as It got? I bet it would have blown out on the next shot without damage.. not that I would try.

Looks like it's on the very edge of the rifling.

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Post subject: Re: Congratulations it's a SQUIB!
Post Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:49 am
I kept a "buldged" barrel from my '70 series here for a long time...finally gave it to another hunter ed instructor to use as a hands on item. Of course that was way back when I first started reloading. Now and since then, I visually check every case for the proper charge.

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Post subject: Re: Congratulations it's a SQUIB!
Post Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:23 am
Joe Sixpack wrote:
Ya I worry about that during rapid fire, seems like the perfect time to get a squib and blow you gun to bits.

Did you push it out for dramatic effect or is that as far as It got? I bet it would have blown out on the next shot without damage.. not that I would try.

Looks like it's on the very edge of the rifling.


Being it was exposed I tried to just grab it with vice grips and pull it out. That broke it in half. So I then drilled it and ran a tap into it. I was then able to slowly knock it forward and out of the barrel.

This was old ammo a friend had asked me to get rid of. there were about 60 rounds of it. It was a good experience and am glad nothing bad happened because now I know the sound and feel of a squib. It happened two more times before the ammo was all gone but they were much closer to the nose cone and were easily driven back out of the barrel. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Congratulations it's a SQUIB!
Post Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:45 am
Some blowback type semi auto will function and load a fresh round for you when that happens. Most recoil operated semi would require the shooter to load his own round.

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Post subject: Re: Congratulations it's a SQUIB!
Post Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:26 pm
willbird wrote:
Some blowback type semi auto will function and load a fresh round for you when that happens. Most recoil operated semi would require the shooter to load his own round.

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I wouldn't bet on that. I know of several instances of 1911s cycling in a new round after a squib left a bullet stuck in the barrel.
The barrel ends up with a bulge after the second round causes both bullets to leave the gun.

At least one gun smith has received a 1911 for repair with TWO separate bulges in the barrel.
Obviously the owner didn't learn anything the first time.

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Post subject: Re: Congratulations it's a SQUIB!
Post Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:32 pm
AlanM wrote:
willbird wrote:
Some blowback type semi auto will function and load a fresh round for you when that happens. Most recoil operated semi would require the shooter to load his own round.

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I wouldn't bet on that. I know of several instances of 1911s cycling in a new round after a squib left a bullet stuck in the barrel.
The barrel ends up with a bulge after the second round causes both bullets to leave the gun.

At least one gun smith has received a 1911 for repair with TWO separate bulges in the barrel.
Obviously the owner didn't learn anything the first time.


wait.. 2 separate incidents or squib followed by 2 rounds?

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Post subject: Re: Congratulations it's a SQUIB!
Post Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:35 pm
Joe Sixpack wrote:
AlanM wrote:
willbird wrote:
Some blowback type semi auto will function and load a fresh round for you when that happens. Most recoil operated semi would require the shooter to load his own round.

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I wouldn't bet on that. I know of several instances of 1911s cycling in a new round after a squib left a bullet stuck in the barrel.
The barrel ends up with a bulge after the second round causes both bullets to leave the gun.

At least one gun smith has received a 1911 for repair with TWO separate bulges in the barrel.
Obviously the owner didn't learn anything the first time.


wait.. 2 separate incidents or squib followed by 2 rounds?


Two separate incidents, same barrel, same idiot.

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Post subject: Re: Congratulations it's a SQUIB!
Post Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:25 pm
The 1911 incidents I chalk up to the shooter charging the gun after a squib. Maybe in some instances the bullet travels far enough to generate enough recoil to work the gun, but my first instinct is "do not believe the shooter, he she loaded another round after the squib".

That is just my prejudice :-).

Seen a buddy rack in another round after a squib and screamed NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO in time to stop him from pulling the trigger, sure enough there was a bullet lodged about 1/2" ahead of the new round.

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