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Post subject: Lesson Learned ... don't bring pocket knives to Pentagon ...
Post Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:52 pm
I have carried pocket knives on almost every military installation I have ever been to (in fact most sell all types of knives in the BX ... :roll: ) ... I went to the Pentagon for a meeting and despite having a military ID they still make visitors go through metal detectors, 2 IDs, etc...

I fessed up and the guards told me that they would either confiscate it permanantly or I could go stash it ... so I stashed it on top of a phone booth on the METRO station ...well, I was lucky and able to retrieve it on the way out! 8)

Thankfully, the knife was only a $40 swiss army knife ... or I would have gone all the way back to my hotel :mrgreen:

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Post subject: Re: Lesson Learned ... don't bring pocket knives to Pentagon
Post Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:14 pm
Guards couldn't just hold it for you? how difficult is that?

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Post subject: Re: Lesson Learned ... don't bring pocket knives to Pentagon
Post Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:52 pm
nope, I asked ...plus, you go out a different way than you came in ...

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Post subject: Re: Lesson Learned ... don't bring pocket knives to Pentagon
Post Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:53 pm
Good to know. Glad it turned out okay for ya!

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Post subject: Re: Lesson Learned ... don't bring pocket knives to Pentagon
Post Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:04 am
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Guards couldn't just hold it for you? how difficult is that?


Why should they? They dont want to be responsible for his personal property. If they wanted to hold it, I am sure they would provide a locker or some such.

Anyhow, the point is moot since you exit at a different place then you enter.

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Post subject: Re: Lesson Learned ... don't bring pocket knives to Pentagon
Post Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:16 am
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Guards couldn't just hold it for you? how difficult is that?


Why should they? They dont want to be responsible for his personal property. If they wanted to hold it, I am sure they would provide a locker or some such.

They usually do at other places.

I guess it's to much to ask :roll:

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Post subject: Re: Lesson Learned ... don't bring pocket knives to Pentagon
Post Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:14 am
I had about the same thing happen to me on a trip to DC for work. They rented the air/space museum after hours for a dinner and tour. They had buses pick us up at the hotel and drive us to the event.

I get to the door and see that they are having everyone go through metal detector. I turn back around as the last bus drives off. I wait for the end of the line and then go through. I tell the guy working the scanner that I have a pocket knife and he asks to see it. I show him my Benchmade and he replies "That looks like more then a pocket knife".

I tell him that a rubber chicken dinner not worth as much as the Benchmade so if it was a problem I would just skip the event and grab dinner elsewhere. He then takes the knife and hands it around the machine to his buddy and who gives it right back to me once I am through. Obviously the whole thing was just to give the illusion of security because if the second guy didn't even bat an eye so they had certainly done it before.

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Post subject: Re: Lesson Learned ... don't bring pocket knives to Pentagon
Post Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:37 pm
isn't there a fed law/rule governing knives on federal property stating that knife w/ a blade > 2" is forbidden, or something like that ?? thought i'd heard/read that somewhere.. perhaps knives 2" or less are permitted (in most cases)???

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Post subject: Re: Lesson Learned ... don't bring pocket knives to Pentagon
Post Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:12 pm
At the Federal building here, the security guards just keep my knife and put a numbered tag on it and give me the stub. I turn in the stub when I leave and get my knife back.
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Post subject: Re: Lesson Learned ... don't bring pocket knives to Pentagon
Post Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:33 pm
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I don't know whether I nailed you with a "Welcome Aboard" or not.... If I didn't, well, here it is.... There's a sticky at http://forums.buckeyefirearms.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=10097 that you should read, but it's not mandatory. (It's probably self-defense, too....)

About the knives, it seems to vary. Last time I was at Columbiana's Courthouse, I had to leave a penknife (under 2") at the detectors, but had no issues getting it back. Same for a Court here in Mahoning County. I just forget about 'em.... The way things work in Columbiana, you have to visit the Courthouse once, and then make two visits to the Sheriff's Department offices out at their County Jail, some distance out of town. Not the end of the world, but there's ONE sign, and no detectors....

(So, you leave it in the car, but there are trustys wandering around the grounds - shared with the County Jail. One of whom asked me "Concealed Carry?" when I got out of the car.... Sure hope their video surveillance was in a good mood....)

My daughter lost a good NRA pocket knife at an airport a while back - can't think of which one. She forgot to stick it in her checked baggage, and didn't have time to make an alternate arrangement....

However, the one that really got me, quite a few years back - before 09/11 - was at CAK (Akron-Canton) when a kid tried to get through with a seat-belt cutter. Idiot on the detectors made the kid race back to the ticket counter to check the thing - I don't know whether he made the flight or not. The punch line? The kid was a Paramedic, and had the appropriate ID on him....

Security theater....

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Post subject: Re: Lesson Learned ... don't bring pocket knives to Pentagon
Post Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:12 pm
Joe Sixpack wrote:
FireEMSPolice wrote:
Joe Sixpack wrote:
Guards couldn't just hold it for you? how difficult is that?


Why should they? They dont want to be responsible for his personal property. If they wanted to hold it, I am sure they would provide a locker or some such.

They usually do at other places.

I guess it's to much to ask :roll:


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Post subject: Re: Lesson Learned ... don't bring pocket knives to Pentagon
Post Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:48 pm
98-2001 I worked for a small consulting company and I service calls for HP, IBM, Compaq, etc printers, (business) computers, servers, etc.
Had to replace a floppy drive in a pc in the library of a prison south of Columbus. Emptied my pockets in the bin and the guard said "you cant take that in" so I started to pickup my pocket knife to take it back to the van and he stopped me and said I could take the knife but not the cell phone.
Used to go into the supreme court of Ohio to repair printers. One lady was "Thats a knife!" when I cut open the box with the new fuser, so I asked her how else was I to open the box, with my teeth?
So then I started loading up my pockets with all kinds of tools I might need, was a game to see how many bins I could fill at the metal detector.
Later I found I could fix just about anything with a Leatherman and the bit driver so I could travel light. One guard picked it out of the bin and said I couldn't take a knife so I asked if he was going to supply me with tools and a woman guard came over and told him it its ok, its a Leatherman.

And I just noticed the date on the last post of this thread.
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Post subject: Re: Lesson Learned ... don't bring pocket knives to Pentagon
Post Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:49 pm
Eugene:

It's usually called a "Zombie Thread".... But that's fine when you really have something to add, and you win on that....

No foul....

I just love those metal detectors at places like Courthouses. After that guy shot up the United States Capitol's entrance, giving him pretty good access to yet another free fire zone....

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Post subject: Re: Lesson Learned ... don't bring pocket knives to Pentagon
Post Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:08 pm
I prefer necro-threading myself but zombie threading is a nice touch
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Post subject: Re: Lesson Learned ... don't bring pocket knives to Pentagon
Post Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:35 am
I prefer the nomenclature: "undead thread."

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