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Post Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:59 pm
The top ten guns used in crimes as reported by the BATFE in 2000.

The Top 10 Guns Used In Crime - BATF Statistics

1. Smith and Wesson .38 revolver
2. Ruger 9 mm semiautomatic
3. Lorcin Engineering .380 semiautomatic
4. Raven Arms .25 semiautomatic
5. Mossberg 12 gauge shotgun
6. Smith and Wesson 9mm semiautomatic
7. Smith and Wesson .357 revolver
8. Bryco Arms 9mm semiautomatic
9. Bryco Arms .380 semiautomatic
10. Davis Industries .380 semiautomatic

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Post subject: Re: Top 10 guns
Post Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:09 pm
Well, I own two of the ten and don't feel the slightest bit inclined to go on a crime spree...

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Post subject: Re: Top 10 guns
Post Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:07 pm
data's a bit stale ...

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Post subject: Re: Top 10 guns
Post Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:45 am
Gee, it looks like hi-cap mags & AR platforms are ok. We're in luck. ( rolling eyes )

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Post Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:36 am
What? No Yugo SKS's with bayonette lugs? ::confused::

It's an interesting list.

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Post Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:43 am
cheap guns or common guns the type someone would buy for HD and then lost in B&E.

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Post subject: Re: Top 10 guns
Post Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:48 pm
Sort of a list of guns likely to be bought in back alleys, or stolen....

Funny thing is that about half of them probably would be "Saturday Night Specials" by the common Brady Bunch definition, but you can just smell them trying to put things like my old S&W M39 on that list.

I think we should call it a hit piece....

The three S&W guns and the Ruger are considerably more expensive, and of better quality, than the rest (other than the Mossberg shotgun, which really is in a totally different category, and S&W made some inexpensive revolvers many years ago that are still around). Those mostly have to have been stolen, or used in domestic situations, or (remember this is BATFE) involved in technical crimes like "failure to notify"....

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Post subject: Re: Top 10 guns
Post Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:22 pm
Here's the picture from the article and the list again:
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1. Smith and Wesson .38 revolver
2. Ruger 9 mm semiautomatic
3. Lorcin Engineering .380 semiautomatic
4. Raven Arms .25 semiautomatic
5. Mossberg 12 gauge shotgun
6. Smith and Wesson 9mm semiautomatic
7. Smith and Wesson .357 revolver
8. Bryco Arms 9mm semiautomatic
9. Bryco Arms .380 semiautomatic
10. Davis Industries .380 semiautomatic

Bear in mind that the pictures don't show the most sold (and thereby the most likely stolen) models of those guns.
They seem to show the manufacturer's top of the line versions on those models.
I was in the market for a Mossberg shotty for home defense and I assure you I wasn't looking for one with beautiful walnut furniture. I also wasn't looking for one with a barrel longer than my arm either.

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Post subject: Re: Top 10 guns
Post Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:59 pm
In regards to the guns crooks steal and then possibly us in a crime latter:
Our house was broken into in the late 80's and what they took was 3 of my cheapest guns (including, of all things a muzzle loader,I could just see that being used to hold up a bank!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But what really throu me was they didn't take my 44 mag desert eagle ,it was right in the cabinet w/ muzz. loader and its case was open, a 900$ gun left behind??? Want PROOF that some crooks are pretty stupid this is it!!! Thought I didn't see a muzzle loader on that list of top ten guns.







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Post subject: Re: Top 10 guns
Post Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:01 am
What/ Not a single .22 cal Clerke in the bunch?
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Post subject: Re: Top 10 guns
Post Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:56 am
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What/ Not a single .22 cal Clerke in the bunch?



I'm surprised that the Jennings .22 didn't make it ... they cost $3.00 in materials to make ... :shock:

Though I think Lorcin, Bryco, Jennings, Raven Arms, Phoenix arms, etc were all various iterations & spin-offs of the same company that was sued out of existence several times... :?

Here is an article:

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History of Bryco Arms

Bryco Arms/Jennings Firearms Bryco Arms was one of the so-called "Ring of Fire" manufacturers of Saturday Night Special firearms that operated in and around Los Angeles, California. It produced firearms branded as Jennings Firearms at its Irvine, California facility and branded as Bryco Arms at its former Carson City, Nevada facility and at its Costa Mesa, California facility.

Bryco Arms went into bankruptcy in 2003 as a result of losing a lawsuit filed in Oakland, California, which resulted in a jury award of a record $24 million judgment against it. The lawsuit stemmed from an injury to a 12-year old who was attempting to unload the 380 ACP version of the Bryco Arms Model 38 and pulled the trigger with a round still in the gun. An ensuing accidental discharge resulted in paralyzing a young boy named Brandon Maxfield. The jury ruled that the pistol had a design flaw, in that it had to have the trigger pulled to de-cock the striker after unloading the semi-automatic pistol.

Many, if not most, semi-automatic pistols with external hammers utilize a similar design, which has found widespread use since early Colt Firearms first used this method around 1905. Notable among pistols which require hammer decocking is the standard US Military issue pistol for over 70 years, the Colt M1911.

Jimenez Arms Bryco's former foreman, Paul Jimenez, bought the bankrupt Bryco Arms for $510,000 in August 2004, and renamed the company Jimenez Arms. The former Model 380 (the 380 ACP version of the Model 38) was renamed the JA-380, and production of the same semi-automatic pistol design was resumed.

In an ironic twist, the victim of the accidental shooting, Brandon Maxfield, was a runner-up bidder for taking control of the Bryco Arms company, bidding $505,000. If he had the high bid, his plan was to melt all stockpiles of guns and gun parts at the company to make a sculpture and to close the company, firing all of the employees.
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Read more:http://bryco-jennings-jimenezarms.com/bryco.html

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