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Post subject: Man planned to destroy Capitol & Pentagon
Post Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:11 pm
Massachusetts Man Plotted to Blow Up Pentagon, U.S. Capitol Using Model Plane, Feds Say

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A 26-year-old Massachusetts man was arrested Wednesday and accused of plotting to blow up the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol using large remote-controlled aircraft laden with explosives, as well as attempting to assist Al Qaeda in attacking U.S. troops overseas.

Rezwan Ferdaus of Ashland, Mass., was arrested Wednesday in Framingham after undercover FBI agents delivered weapons Ferdaus allegedly sought for the alleged plan. The stash included what he thought was 25 pounds of C-4 explosives, as well as three grenades and six fully-automatic AK-47 assault, a press release from the Department of Justice reads.


Why is it that anytime I read about bad guys getting full auto weapons in the US they've gotten them from government agents or LEOs?

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Post subject: Re: Man planned to destroy Capitol & Pentagon
Post Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:23 pm
It's possible this protester is just misunderstood...
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Post subject: Re: Man planned to destroy Capitol & Pentagon
Post Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:34 pm
AlanM wrote:
Why is it that anytime I read about bad guys getting full auto weapons in the US they've gotten them from government agents or LEOs?


Oh, but...
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The public was never in danger from the explosives, as undercover agents monitored the alleged plot and kept up frequent contact with Ferdaus


I feel so much safer now...

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Post subject: Re: Man planned to destroy Capitol & Pentagon
Post Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 7:31 pm
Should'a stuffed the barrels of them AKs fulla Comp-4 and told him "Have at it".
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Post subject: Re: Man planned to destroy Capitol & Pentagon
Post Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:37 pm
They are just as good as keeping track of explosives as they are of "Fast & Furious" guns.

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Post subject: Re: Man planned to destroy Capitol & Pentagon
Post Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:48 pm
A genius with an advanced useful productive prosperous college degree, having it made in the shade, who could have had money and honeys in the land of opportunity, but with an insane primitive backward barbaric turd-world brain!
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Post subject: Re: Man planned to destroy Capitol & Pentagon
Post Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:41 am
I'd like to point out that the article seems to waffle on exactly what the "explosives" were.

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They say the explosives delivered to Rezwan Ferdaus were always closely monitored.

That implies that the C-4 was real.

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The stash included what he thought was 25 pounds of C-4 explosives, as well as three grenades and six fully-automatic AK-47 assault, a press release from the Department of Justice reads.

This implies that the C-4 was NOT real.
(Note the missing word after "assault". Apparently copy writing doesn't include proof reading.)

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Post subject: Re: Man planned to destroy Capitol & Pentagon
Post Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:54 am
I have always thought the us gov "delivered" the detcord to Tim Mcveigh. Then they watched him, intending to swoop in and grab him with the bomb fully made, but something went wrong............and the tragedy ensued.

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Post subject: Re: Man planned to destroy Capitol & Pentagon
Post Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:48 am
willbird wrote:
I have always thought the us gov "delivered" the detcord to Tim Mcveigh. Then they watched him, intending to swoop in and grab him with the bomb fully made, but something went wrong............and the tragedy ensued.



what proof do you have for this assertion...?

The FBI, by thier actions, thought that the bomber was a man of middle eastern decent immediately following the OKC bombing...

Timothy McViegh was a white-trash, nazi extremist who read one to many Turner Diaries & neo-nazi primers.

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Post subject: Re: Man planned to destroy Capitol & Pentagon
Post Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:33 am
How about the government stop giving crap to criminals and bust those who have intentions and aquire the parts/weapons themselves?
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Post Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:50 am
Viking wrote:
willbird wrote:
I have always thought the us gov "delivered" the detcord to Tim Mcveigh. Then they watched him, intending to swoop in and grab him with the bomb fully made, but something went wrong............and the tragedy ensued.



what proof do you have for this assertion...?

The FBI, by thier actions, thought that the bomber was a man of middle eastern decent immediately following the OKC bombing...

Timothy McViegh was a white-trash, nazi extremist who read one to many Turner Diaries & neo-nazi primers.


Anecdotal evidence, one or more witness saw a car following McVeigh in the Ryder truck, John Doe number two, stuff like that. And I am sure not all of the FBI knew about fast and furious, and or it could have been say ATF that gave or sold McVeigh the detcord. He was having a tough time finding it from some things I read, he made contact with more than 1 person seeking it.

The theory that the govt (some part of it) KNEW about McVeigh and wanted to make a "red handed" arrest is sure not MINE, it has been around for years.

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Post subject: Re: Man planned to destroy Capitol & Pentagon
Post Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:27 pm
Update: A FoxNews reporter just stated that most of the "C-4" was fake and only a "small" amount was really C-4.

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Post subject: Re: Man planned to destroy Capitol & Pentagon
Post Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:33 pm
The government is not a monolithic unit. There so many different agencies (that don't talk to each other - look at F & F - for example) Giving creedence to conspiracy theories is giving the govt. interagency piece way to much credit. At best (worst actually), we are talking programs like F & F that are consitutionally sperious (as pointed out by veteran ATF field agents) and sold & briefed to political appointees like Eric Holder who don't have the slightest clue whats going on, even though they "approve" these programs. In most agencies there is not a senior cadre of officers like at DOD that clearly know right from wrong, and political appointees who know "jack" about the agency don't have a Flag officer's "union" to contend with - and may be freer to run with thier political agendy in the agency. Most likely senoir bureaucrats give them lip service and carry on accordingly.

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Post Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:30 pm
Well at least in this case they DID keep track and DID make an arrest :)

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Post subject: Re: Man planned to destroy Capitol & Pentagon
Post Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:54 pm
Clearly this guy was a wannabe.They probly been prepin this guy for awhile.That remote plane,I caught a glimpse of it on the tube,looked like an old A-7 miniature,would'a killed somebody laffin,let alone get close enough to deliver.My perception of this is a propaganda move,we're on the job protecting our country.But the guy don't need to be runnin loose.That much they got right.one thing is clear,al queda uses scores of halfwits to get at us,they figure no loss,some are bound to get thru.
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