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Post subject: Florida SYG case stats
Post Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:53 pm
These numbers were compiled from this Tampa Bay Times article.
Supposedly these are cases where SYG was used in the defense of the charges.
Interestingly the Zimmerman/Martin case is included even though SYG was never used/mentioned (AFAIK) by Zimmerman's attorneys.

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Post subject: Re: Florida SYG case stats
Post Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:53 pm
Thanks. This is good info to have with some of the anti's that talk about how racist the law is. Seems to benefit people equally.
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Post subject: Re: Florida SYG case stats
Post Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:16 am
Some Florida SYG stats comments
Some things that need to be pointed out about these figures:

1. These are ONLY the cases that actually went to court, they do not show all the cases where the prosecutor (grand jury?) didn't think there was enough evidence to warrant taking it to trial.

2. Supposedly these are ONLY the cases where SYG was used in the defense of the accused.

3. This makes no mention of the nature (race vs. race) of other homicides or violent crime.


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From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Florida
According to the 2005 census, the racial distributions are as follows; 60.1% White, 17% African-American, 2.1% Asian American, 1.4% others (American Indians), and the remaining 18% are Hispanics or Latino (of any ethnicity or national origin).


Re: the Totals/Percentages table
This table may or may not show some significant details.

I need to point out that the definition of "Hispanic" is quite nebulous and who the the newspaper reporter calls Hispanic is probably quite different than the definition used by the US census.
1. There seems to be a good correlation between percent of population that is white and the percent of white involved in these cases either as a victim or perpetrator.
That is, about 60% of the population of Florida is white and that's almost exactly the percentage of cases (fatal, nonfatal, or both) that they are involved in as either accused or victim.
2. Either Hispanics are less likely to get into SYG situations, they don't get to court (plead out or don't use SYG as a defense), or the incidents aren't reported to law enforcement at all. The data indicate that they are three times LESS likely to be involved in these cases versus the total population.
3. For each racial group there is very close to a perfect 50-50 split between being the accused and being the victim.
4. For some reason this table shows that Blacks are twice as likely than their proportion of the general population would indicate to be either the accused or victim. Does this indicate that the Black population is twice as violent as the general population? I won't hazard a guess with just this data.

Bear in mind one other thing: This is ONLY 242 cases over an unknown number of years in a state of 19 million people.
I have to point out that the FBI crime statistics for 2012 show that Florida's total for murder and non-negligent manslaughter was 1009.
This would indicate to me that the SYG legal defense isn't employed very often.

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