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  • ‘Let Us Provide Our Own Security’: Virginia Beach Manager Petitions for Guns at Work

    This is pathetic, we are BEGGING politicians to let us to defend our own lives. This was never suppose to have happened in America. How have we surrendered so much.

    The idea that we must ask govt to protect our own lives with any arms, anywhere at anytime is reprehensible and unconstitutional.
    Vincent Smith wasn’t in the office when a fellow Virginia Beach city employee opened fire there, ultimately killing 12 and wounding five in the carnage five weeks ago.
    After getting notice of the shooting that afternoon in Building 2 of the Virginia Beach Municipal Center, Smith, 49, raced to the nearby emergency operations center, where he helped out until late in the night.
    It was soon clear that although law enforcement arrived within two minutes of the report May 31 of an active shooter, the gunman had been able to move through offices and fire at fellow city employees without being confronted by another firearm.
    Now, Smith, the city’s division manager for construction services, is taking action in hopes of preventing such a situation from occurring again.
    “Their policy failed, and it failed their employees, and we’ve got to do something different,” Smith said of Virginia Beach officials in a phone interview Monday with The Daily Signal. “I’ll take it all the way to the Legislature if I have to.”
    Bringing back a petition he started over three years ago to allow city employees to carry a concealed firearm at work, Smith so far has garnered support from almost 5,000 of Virginia Beach’s estimated 450,000 residents, many of them fellow city employees.
    Among the petition’s original 260 signees was construction project manager Herbert Snelling, the only person to lose his life in the shooting who wasn’t a city worker. His family described Snelling, 57, as a gun rights activist and a man “who loved Jesus deeply.”
    Smith’s petition seeks to overturn a policy that prevents the resort city’s 6,000 employees from carrying a concealed handgun in the workplace.
    https://dailysign.al/2Yv9UN7

    I carry a firearm because a cop is too heavy and takes too many breaks.

    Montani Semper Liberi - (Mountaineers Are Always Free)

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    It is so sad that we have allowed our politicians to stray so far from the founding fathers intent...and it's result is tragic. It is also sad that it takes a tragedy for some of them to finally see the reality of their logic and start to realize some common sense...

    The law has changed in Ohio, allowing municipalities to permit CCW in their Gov't buildings. A small step in the right direction, but those buildings belong to us, paid for by our tax dollars. There never should have been a law prohibiting it in the first place!
    Hence it is, that democracies have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have, in general, been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths. James Madison, Federalist Paper No 10

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    • #3
      I agree, but there are some to most politicians who will never see the light because they will never surrender that power over the people.

      We see that everywhere where politicians are doubling down on their gun restrictions and are demanding even more. Every day someone is sending a new bill out to ban guns, making them miserable to own and unusable or making it easier to confiscate guns like the ERPO'S do violating the whole Bill of Rights. Both parties are doing that. Including DeWine who said he was going to have something written up supporting ERPO's.

      This is an Authoritarian way of governing no matter who is doing it.


      Insanity, doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.
      I carry a firearm because a cop is too heavy and takes too many breaks.

      Montani Semper Liberi - (Mountaineers Are Always Free)

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      • #4
        Agreed...

        As for DeWine and his "Red Flag" comments, MULTIPLE people from different organizations have stressed to him the necessity of due process when considering the suspension of ANY constitutional right for a citizen. His concession regarding due process, and publicly stating we need a law that does not deny due process, means it would not truly be a "Red Flag" law at all, and would, therefore, not end up being back door gun control. He is still not savvy enough on our issue to answer 2A questions off the cuff (my opinion).

        We all agree, people with certain mental issues should not have access to firearms. While the lack of mental health services and severe neglect of thereof by our elected officials is it's own issue, it's hard to deny...a person with potentially violent mental problems is one of our biggest concerns. However, I fail to see how passing more legislation regarding the individual and his or her constitutional rights, is going to help. It is proven, Law Enforcement Agencies are dropping the ball, even when it's being handed to them. So, besides funding and resources to address the National Mental Health crisis, maybe some accountability for those who "drop the ball"...just maybe?
        Hence it is, that democracies have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have, in general, been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths. James Madison, Federalist Paper No 10

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