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  • Does anyone know what is going on at Spring Valley?

    I haven't been by, but all indications are it is still closed. The project completion is nearly a year over-due. I don't see where any lawsuits have been filed. I don't see where any major design changes have been proposed. The other ranges are open again. No one seems to know anything.

  • #2
    I haven't heard anything, but ALL the range renovation projects have been seriously behind schedule. Delaware has been yrs past it's original completion date...
    Hence it is, that democracies have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have, in general, been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths. James Madison, Federalist Paper No 10

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    • #3
      I pinged them a month or so ago and they responded. Here is their response.

      The Ohio Department of Natural Resources, Division of Wildlife redesigned the firing range to increase customer engagement and improve the overall experience from the design that previously existed at Spring Valley. However, during construction of the project it was determined that the new design did not provide adequate assurance that all fired bullets will be safely confined within the range. The safety of our customers, employees and, the general public is of utmost concern to the Department. We are currently negotiating with the design consultant to get these issues addressed and are unable to provide a specific date for when the range will open. Due to our ongoing negotiations with the design consultant, the Department is unable to comment further at this time.

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      • #4
        So, my interpretation of this and other information is: it is likely they decided to go with the "no blue sky" design standard at some point after construction was started, but they do not have the money to complete the redesigned project. The previous range which fell FAR short of this standard was acceptable for years without serious issues. I think no blue sky is great and have seen plenty of pock-marks on indoor range ceilings to know it is a valid standard.
        This is especially crappy during a pandemic when indoor activities are extremely limited.
        Unless some organizations throw some weight behind these issues I think we should just accept these state ranges are not re-opening.

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        • #5
          Glad I'm still open... ;-)
          Hence it is, that democracies have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have, in general, been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths. James Madison, Federalist Paper No 10

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Aaron View Post
            Glad I'm still open... ;-)
            HUH?? Please elaborate, I am new here so I don't understand

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            • #7
              I run a state park shooting range (the only one in Ohio) many of the state ranges have been closed for renovations that never seem to get completed. I'm glad my facility is open and operational, even tho it is old and in need of many upgrades... we are still shootin' ;-)
              Hence it is, that democracies have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have, in general, been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths. James Madison, Federalist Paper No 10

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              • #8
                I am really surprised no one else thinks this gets into a 2A issue.

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                • #9
                  I sent a very direct request for information to director Mertz. She kicked it down to Division of Wildlife Chief Kendra Wrecker. Normally that would rub me the wrong way, but Ms. Wrecker provided a comprehensive response which I was happy to receive and which I have pasted below. It looks as though Spring Valley shold hopefully be open within 60 days and Delaware not long after. By the end of the year at least (fingers crossed).


                  Dear Mr. Williamson,

                  Thank you for contacting ODNR Director Mertz regarding the status of the Delaware and Spring Valley Shooting Ranges. As you can probably imagine, major construction projects such as this take considerable planning and execution to deliver a first class product. These two facilities in particular were 40+ years old with various safety concerns that needed to be addressed to keep the public and our staff safe.

                  The Delaware Range project is on schedule to be completed in the next few months and the contractor is working hard to finish on time. This project is a $9.7 million renovation that involved moving the existing range out of the 100 year flood plain of the Delaware Reservoir, and remediating the existing site so it may return to wildlife area. The new range has grown from 6 shooting benches to 90 firing points, along with an archery course, ADA elevated archery platform, a hand trap shotgun range and Indoor Archery Training Center. We are very excited to provide the public this first class shooting opportunity right here in central Ohio.

                  The Spring Valley Range project will be completed within the next 60 days and portions of the facility are already open to the public. Customers can shoot with a Division of Wildlife Range Pass at the shotgun and archery ranges Thursday through Sunday. Shooters must check in at the new Outdoor Education Training Center before entering these ranges. There have been several setbacks with this project due to weather, design modifications, and material supplies but those issues have been resolved and the contractor is quickly working to finish this project. This is a $5.5 million renovation that consists of new backstops and side berms, over 60 ADA shooting benches, new state of the art Range Master Building that will enhance safety for the public and staff, new archery and hand trap shotgun range, and Outdoor Education Training Center.

                  These projects are made possible through funding created by the Pittman-Robertson Act and no general tax revenue is used by the Division of Wildlife on these projects. Excise taxes on firearm and ammunition sales are paid by the manufacturers and returned to the state to be used for wildlife restoration, hunter education, shooting range construction and maintenance.

                  We are very excited to finish out these projects and provide the public two of the best shooting facilities in the state, if not east of the Mississippi. The ODNR has made the commitment to bring these aging facilities into the modern era and renovation plans are already in place for other shooting ranges around the state. We appreciate your patience as we move in this direction and hope you enjoy shooting at these facilities soon. If you have any additional questions feel free to reach out to Eric Postell in the Division of Wildlife. Eric oversees these shooting range construction projects and will be able to answer any questions you may have. He may be reached at [email protected] or by phone at 614-265-6322. Thanks for your interest in Ohio’s shooting sports. We are eager to show you the new ranges soon!

                  Kendra Wecker
                  Chief
                  ODNR Division of Wildlife
                  Phone: 614-403-7271
                  Email: [email protected]

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                  • #10
                    BFA leadership was just invited the other day to RSVP for a tour of the new facility prior to opening. That tour is scheduled for Friday Oct 23rd. I will not be attending as my range is open for business that day, and I would have to find someone to cover the range for me in my absence. I will post any further information here as it comes to me.
                    Hence it is, that democracies have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have, in general, been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths. James Madison, Federalist Paper No 10

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                    • #11
                      Is Larry Moore still around? I noticed his last article seems to have been published ten months ago. I think it would be great if he did an update article to let people know what is happening. He is the best connection most in this area have to ODNR policy.

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                      • #12
                        Yes... Larry is still around, and he is still a part of BFA. He is semi retired and spending a lot of time hunting and fishing with his grandchildren. I will pass along your suggestion. I know Larry has confirmed he will be representing BFA at the tour of Spring Valley this month, so my assumption is there will be an article!
                        Hence it is, that democracies have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have, in general, been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths. James Madison, Federalist Paper No 10

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