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Post by Rick » Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:25 pm

Pro's and Con's???? Thinking about starting to reload some....powder? bullet? Just for informal plinking.......
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Re: 30-06

Post by willbird » Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:20 pm

Rick wrote:Pro's and Con's???? Thinking about starting to reload some....powder? bullet? Just for informal plinking.......
Reloading any center fire ctg is always "worth it"...but what type of rifle do you have ?

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Re: 30-06

Post by Buckshot » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:57 am

Rick,

Really, we need the type of the .30-06 rifle.

If you have any idea of an M1 Garand you need specific reloading techniques and components. ONLY certain powders (in a narrow range) and only certain bullet weights (150 gr. up to 175 gr. ONLY).

If you are loading for a sporter you are good to go, basically whatever the loading manual says.

If you are loading for a USGI Bolt gun then you need to match only M2 Ball velocities with 150 gr. bullets to keep with the sight graduations.

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Re: 30-06

Post by Rick » Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:55 am

I'll be reloading for a 1955 version (H&R) of the M1 Garand...also have a U.S. Model of 1917 bolt action rifle.
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Re: 30-06

Post by M&M » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:10 am

I have been considering a 30-06 for quite some time now, it seems to be a great all around cartridge and finding loaded ammo and reloading componants are very easy too find
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Re: 30-06

Post by Hiccup » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:15 am

hxp brass, m2 bullets from wideners and 4895 powder and g2g....
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Re: 30-06

Post by willbird » Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:52 am

Hiccup wrote:hxp brass, m2 bullets from wideners and 4895 powder and g2g....
I'd use H4895...otherwise sounds like a good choice.

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Re: 30-06

Post by M&M » Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:40 am

I have not used H4895 but I have used imr4895 for 22-250 loads and like it, my rifle shot great groups with it and it burns clean
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Re: 30-06

Post by Buckshot » Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:51 am

Rick wrote:I'll be reloading for a 1955 version (H&R) of the M1 Garand...also have a U.S. Model of 1917 bolt action rifle.
Rick,

You need IMR 4895 or a powder very close to it due to the "port pressure" developed by the different powders.

The M1 Garand is a first generation semi-auto rifle and there is NOTHING that stops or moderates the gas pressure from the barrel through the gas port into the gas cylinder. So, your ammo needs to be close to M2 Ball or M73 Match ammo.

You also need to keep the bullet weight in a relatively small range for the .30 cal. Bullets from 150 gr. to 175 gr. for the M1 Garand.

You MAY want to go with CCI LR Milspec primers, they are a little tougher to prevent slam-fires, but many of us have loaded for years, long before the CCI Milspec primers were available and not had trouble.

There are several sources of this info. Many of the loading manuals have info on loading for the M1 Garand. The NRA also has this info available. The CMP, or at least their forum, might also have this info available.

This ammo (M2 Ball equivalent) won't hurt the M1917 and will keep the bullet very close to the sight graduations.

It is by far safest to keep all your .30-06 loads Garand capable when you have one in the mix. You are not loosing much, just heavyweight bullets and slow burning powders as used in the "trick loads" like Hornady's "Light Magnum" loads.

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Re: 30-06

Post by willbird » Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:51 am

M&M wrote:I have not used H4895 but I have used imr4895 for 22-250 loads and like it, my rifle shot great groups with it and it burns clean
The benefits of the Hogden "Extreme" line of powders, which H4895 is included in is that ambient temperature has very little if any effect on muzzle velocity. Muzzle velocity and pressure increase/decrease with IMR powders due to ambient temp changes can be quite significant.
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Re: 30-06

Post by M&M » Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:33 pm

very interesting I did not know that. where did you find that info?
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Re: 30-06

Post by dougal » Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:02 pm

Our exclusive line of extruded rifle powders – Hodgdon Extreme™ – was developed to give shooters consistent performance, load after load, in even the most extreme heat and cold.
http://hodgdon.com/extreme.html

Hodgdon also owns/makes/bottles IMR and Winchester powders.
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Re: 30-06

Post by willbird » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:59 am

dougal wrote:
Our exclusive line of extruded rifle powders – Hodgdon Extreme™ – was developed to give shooters consistent performance, load after load, in even the most extreme heat and cold.
http://hodgdon.com/extreme.html

Hodgdon also owns/makes/bottles IMR and Winchester powders.
According to their website WW powders are licensed to Hogdon, and Hogdon acquired the IMR powder co, but the powder is still mfg at the same plant as always. A pretty good accomplishment for a small co that started out selling milsurp 4831 in white paper candy bags :-). I have seen some of that powder at gunshows, just a white paper bag with what I guess is 1lb of 4831 in it.
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Re: 30-06

Post by LovelandSBR » Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:15 am

I started out reloading for the Garand. I can't speak highly enough of Hornady's reloading manual. They have Garand specific loads that have been perfect for me. Do yourself a favor and invest in the Hornady manual. Reloading for the Garand is great! If you can get a line on cheap surplus bullets for plinking, you'll be GTG. Polygunbag.com usually has surplus 30 cal bullets and the prices aren't "too" high.

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